HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Press, Volume XLIX, Issue 14841, 5 December 1913, Page 8

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

T-tT-SDAT, D-C-S-BER 4« * ' '/T^l ■ - . • * 'V-S# EVENING SITTING. 'Vs£j The House resumed at 7.30 p.m. ■"'.__j| RATING BILL. '-^I| The Hon. W. H. HERRIES the second reading of th© Rating Adi'os> Amendment Bill. Ho explained the,measure was mainly compo-_l_ofc_*g recommendations of th© local conference, and these were mostly -f J=£ u a minor machinery character.- H_vNfc mentioned that email grazing runs hadj"»jf been exempted from the operations of,M tho Bill, and pastoral leases had been, brought under it. -$ Mr ELL said thoy should allow 5 V people local option with regard to the JByetem of rating to be adopted. Tha '<& proposals in the bill would have the ef* ,a_. feet of reducing the rateabl© valu© ofJ% land for local rating purposes. jjjf Mr FORBES said ho thought locdp; bodies were not going to be fairly under the Bill. *__«- would bCf_r a muddle if the provisions of the Bwj&<* were earned through, as they as far as pastoral licenses were oo_4sJ--cerned. ,' - ,&&. The Hon? W. FRASER said was no desire to commit an but to prevent a recurrence of the justice inflicted in 1910. He did #| hold that local bodies desired to go to tho old system; what they wanw%c& was revenue. It was only a fair as far as pastoral leasee corned, but he would not say tnyitoWfm about grazing runs, and men __"* r _|r"; small leases had told him that were paying five times the amount' rates that -hey wero in rent. ~__RE*r' Mr MACDONALD said that rf»«Sti 8000 acres oj native land in were rated the county council wow<J>£, not bo a bit better off. It was *»*%£ possible to put Natives, on the B *Wffooting as Europeans as far as r __?3*Kj. was concerned, but he was prepared assist in that direction as far as Vf&>*x' Bible J#? The Hon. A. T. NGATA said anyone who set out to discuss of Native lands, should, first of all «PV*£ V . preciate tho difference between la_do&* V-, cur>ied by Maoris and by Europeans*j»*.y. the latter case there was the fee &**V*^ r and the Maoris wero tenants m <x jr't.£mon, -s th© communistic system oo» ,_ tamed. ', V, NATIVE LAND BILL. *g The House went into f tho Native Laud Bill. _ ... \? 1 The Hon A. T. NGATA moved postpone tho coming into operation the Bill until March Ist. 1914. "».; J This was rejected by 34 *•">•*£•*' " 1 At clause 21, "constitution ot aw; <■ Board," _..fc_f_--l Mr NGATA pointed out that ««£ wa. no provision for Natne ~ ta tion on Native Land Boards , £ Dr. RANGIBLROA protested sob* larry. ' . +J , "^ Mr NGATA moved an amendment provido for ono Maori lepresentaWV* » resident of the district on W«* ', Sir JAMES CARROLL P^dedw**. Maoris having.a voice in the a-m-"-; tra'ion of their own affairs *i - Th 3 Hon W. H. iIESRIES "«* could not accept tho amend ment «£. _ - idea was that tho Judge should bo **"-* whole Board, and that the ™S&gl i-. should simply do tho adiww-ttiH™/'. work. Provision was made tor '■> sors, but ho wanted to do **&~2*<>l I them. The idea was to amalg*-»J* J tho court- and boards. _«_*£ _ f ' Several Opposition memb-rs «w_^ tf - A ed Mr Ngata, contending tlut __/E v f£ Minister's proposal was contrary «** British justice and fair play. t.vJLS'At midnight the division was *%3&P on Mr Ngata's amendment, was lost by 33 votes to 20. Ji .._ iJ -k'^ The Bill wns still under when tho Telegraph Office closed *?g| a.m. }&§M