having anything to do with it. However I look upon them in a very different light to what I do upon the Southern Tribes. You know what an obstinate pigheaded personage Wi Kingi is, so I do not think it likely he will listen to reason yet if the Waikatos should go back to their own country and leave him to his own resources he will be in a desperate state, a great part of his crops are destroyed, and the most of the open country is in our possession, the only thing he can do is to fall back on Ngatimaru.