heard the words of Heremia. He was a soldier; the sword was in his hand. He was not able to ''hapai'' (lift up) the words of Heremia. He might be called at any time to go and seek after Te Kooti. He would go; the sword was in his hand. (Ngatiapa) said he would not sheath his sword. He wished to speak, for he was determined to carry his sword in his hand. He was a man of the Government; he would use his sword, if required. got up, and said, -- ''Who is your Government? Who cares for the Government?'' said -- ''The Government was the great Government of New Zealand. Sir George Bowen was the Governor. Mr. Fox, our Father, is the head of the Government. Mr. McLean is also one of the great men of the Government. Will you, Wi Hapi, join, and be under the Government?'' said -- ''All I say to you is -- Stop. My word to you is -- Stop. If I am killed, let it be by the Pakeha. Let my death be caused by the Pakeha. You speak of your Government. They attacked Tito Kowaru. He was finished. They are now attacking to Kooti. If you say he was a murderer, I say the same. I may agree with you. But when he is finished, the Government will not be satisfied. They will then attack the King. I repeat what I said, -- if I am