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we have in fact taken possession of a very considerable portion of the most valuable part of their land, even before I discussed the subject with Isaac --- This I can easily prove to demonstration when I have time to go into the papers with you --- On Friday Isaac tooks me to a hill called Pukewhau and said, there is my boundary and not where it is shown on your map which is a 'mahi hoka noa of the Pakeha'. No Maori has ever consented to these lines, as boundaries for our land etc. You will be astonished when I tell you that Johnsons memo. of boundaries of the native res: would really give the natives more than they themselves claim. I am aware that I am saying much, but this much I can prove to the satisfaction of anyone. However to proceed --- I came forward before the natives and stated that although I was a comparative stranger to them and to the locality and that I might be wrong in my impressions on the Pukekohe matter, and that before I came from Auckland I believed the natives were encroaching on Government land, but I saw now the land which was claimed by them was theirs, at the same time I entreated Isaac to give me the land back to the straight line to save surveying and our time (which would cost the Govt. at least £50) but I did not tell Isaac that --- Isaac got up and said for having acknowledged my right to this place which is the first time it has been done by anyone sent out by the Govt. justice has been done to me at last, and all that sort of thing --- I shall yield to your request now which I refused to acceed to before and give the land to you as far as the straight line and shall never return to my original boundaries. I saw at once that I reduced about 500 acres of land to a negotiation which if not purchased would interfere with a number of grants amounting in the aggregate to about 1500 acres, issued to settlers, so I determined to undertake the responsibility of buying this portion if possible, even without being authorised, but I can show good cause for so doing --- Isaac then demanded a store full of guns and ammunition as 'utu' and subsequently condescended to take £300 --- I immediately offered him £50 --- and after 3 hours debating and he appeared to become pakeke again I said let my offer of £50 stand good and I promise to recommend £50 to add to

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