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1843, and I strictly confined myself to evidence, under the circumstances. Indeed, it left Mr. Chilman but one escape, which was to shew that land is at times given in excess of the claim. Even this was denied to him, for there was Mr. Wicksteed's letter, (copied into the letter-book by Mr. Chilman himself,) to Colonel Wakefield, explaining to the Colonel, who did not appear satisfied, why Mr. Chilman was allowed when others only got half that quantity. I think you ought to be in possession of copies of my documentary evidence under the Company's agencies of Wicksteed, Bell, and myself. It is long. What do you say to it? Thus far, as regards Mr. Chilman and the native, it may be seen, from the mere circumstance of Mr. Chilman's never having moved in a claim arising in 1843 until 1856, that he was attempting an unfair advantage; and in this I am borne out by his application for Crown Grants; otherwise extremely particular in his land claims containing no mention of this waste land. But he is now to judged as a claimant to land, which, if it ever belonged to him at all, he sold six years since to Mogridge; and this man's evidence, as being against himself in a measure, commends one's respect; for under the written agreement of sale, in Mr. Chilman's own writing, and drawn by himself, he, Mr. Chilman, disposed of all his Bell land between the Devon Road and the sea, and rivers, two natural boundaries; including of course, much more than Bell land. Mogridge, like all men who have risen from day-labourers to land-owners, knows his boundaries to a nicety. Barriball, connected with him by marriage, was attesting witness; and they both came forward, and stated to the Committee that Mr. Chilman sold his land under the Government; and that the swamp is no part of the property. This being unanswerable evidence, was not sufficient for Mr. Chilman, who endeavoured to elicit that the sale was subject to some reservation; but

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